<TITLE>24. Par 258-271</TITLE>L-258   He said, "Old Jim Woods is one of the most honest men there." They lived in Indiana then. Said, "Most honest man that there ever was in this country." Said, "I can certainly trust you to not kill one of my cows or start a fire." He said, "Just help yourself." Said, "Go ahead and hunt in it." Said, "I got five hundred acres here. Make yourself at home."

L-259 "All right." Said, "Thank you." He said, "I guess it's all right for my pastor to come too."
He said, "Your what?"
Said, "My pastor."
Am I taking too long? [Someone says, "No, sir."--Ed.] All right.
He said, "My pastor."

L-260 And he said, "Woods, you don't mean to tell me you got so lowdown till you have to carry a preacher with you wherever you go," he said.

L-261 I thought it was about time for me to get out then, so I got out of the car and walked around. I said, "How do you do?"

L-262   Looked at me, and washed his tobacco around, you know, and spit down like that. He said, "And you're a preacher, huh?" I said... Looked, squirrel blood all over me, and whiskers. I hadn't had a bath for two weeks, you know. And--and laying in the woods, sleeping, you know.
And--and so I said, "Might not look like one, but," I said, "I am."

L-263 And he said, "Well," he said, "at least I can respect you looking like a human being." He said, "You look none like preachers I..."
So I said, "Well, thank you, sir."
He said, "I'm kind of against you fellows."
I said, "I--I understood, from Mr. Woods, you was."
He said, "You know, I'm an infidel. I'm supposed to be."

L-264 And I said, "Yes, but I don't think that's anything to brag about, do you?"

L-265 And he said, "Well," he said, "I don't know." He said, "I think you fellows are barking up the wrong bush." And you know what that means? "A lying dog." See, the 'coon ain't up there. See? So he said, "I think you are barking up the wrong bush. There's nothing up there, and you all are just lying about it."
I said, "'Course, that's to opinion."

L-266 And he said, "Yes, I guess that's the way you think it." He said, "Looky here, mister." Said, "See that old chimney up there? That's where the old house. I was born up there. My pappy built this house down here," he said, "about seventy-five years ago." Said, "I was raised right here. I've walked over these hills. I've looked everywhere, up in the skies, all around. I ain't seen no God, no Angels, or nothing else."
I said, "Well, that's to opinion."

L-267 And he said, "I never seen one of you but what I thought was lying." He said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings, mister. I..."

L-268 Well, is... Well, am I going to go hunting, or am I going to really trim him down? So I thought I'll just give him... Mama always said, "You give a cow enough rope, it'll hang itself." See? So, I thought, just go.
I said, "Yes, sir. That's right."

L-269 He said, "I--I met... I heard of one preacher one time, that, if I ever meet the guy, I'm going to talk to him." Said, "He might have had something." And he...
We talked a little while, you know. And I said, "Who was that?"

L-270 Said, "There was a fellow..." Said, "What was his name? He was up here at Acton. I believe they called him... I forget what his name was. Branham."
I looked over to Woods. And Brother Woods said, "Huh-uh."

L-271   He said, "You know," said, "old lady Casmo lives up here on top the hill." And said, "We--we taken her to the doctor in Louisville, and said she had cancer. And they just sewed her back up." Said, "The doctor give them medicine to give her, and keep her quiet till she died. And she was then just about time for her to be gone." Said, "She couldn't even raise in the bed." Said, "We had to pull a bed sheet out from under her. She... We couldn't put her on the bed pan, see, right from under her." Said, "Wife and I'd go up and clean up her bed, every morning."


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